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MY REPLY: Soetoro is not an American Citizen?


Edward C. Noonan
 
Dear Yuba County American Independent Party members:
 
Hi Bryan,

 

I am going by what the former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania, Phillip J. Berg states. He declares that Barry Soetoro was born in Kenya. Berg further claims that the laws on the books at the time of Soetoro's birth state that U.S. citizenship may only pass to a child born overseas to a U.S. citizen parent and non-citizen parent if the former was at least 19 years of age. Soetoro’s mother was only 18 at the time. Therefore, because U.S. citizenship could not legally be passed on to him, Soetoro could not be registered as an ‘American citizen’ and would therefore be considered a BRITISH SUBJECT. This is why he was ineligible to seek the Illinois State Senate, nor the U.S. Senate let alone the presidency pursuant to Article II, Section 1 of the United States Constitution.

 

So, if this is true, then Soetoro WAS NEVER A CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES…PERIOD!

 

Moreover, even if Soetoro could have somehow been deemed ‘a citizen,’ that citizenship was lost in or around 1967 when he and his mother took up residency in Indonesia, where Stanley Ann Dunham married Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian citizen. Berg also states that he possesses copies of Soetoro’s registration to Fransiskus Assisi School In Jakarta, Indonesia which clearly show that Barry Soetoro (aka Barack Obama) was registered under the name ‘Barry Soetoro’ and his citizenship listed as Indonesian (I have such a copy as do most of us BIRTHERS in Amerika.)

 

And concerning the bogus birth certificate that is posted on factcheck.org, it is signed on the back as “CERTIFIED – TRUE COPY OR EXTRACT.”  (It’s an extract.)

 

 

As you can see from the date, Soetoro was using something else prior to 2007…what was he using when he ran in the Socialist Party for Illinois State Senate(1996), or U. S. Senate in 2006, or when he filed for his run for Presidency early in 2007? This is the greatest fraud ever waged against the voters of Amerika.

 

Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"

  • Anyone born inside the United States*
  • Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe
  • Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
  • Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
  • Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
  • Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
  • Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
  • A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.

* There is an exception in the law — the person must be "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States. This would exempt the child of a diplomat, for example, from this provision.

The law that states the mother must be 19 when the baby is born to a foreign national is not found in section 1401 but it is found in Section 301 (g) INA: 

 

At the time of Obama's birth, the law indicated that citizenship only passed from parent to child (when outside the US) if the mother was 19 years old.  Obama's mother was 18. See:

 

 Birth Abroad to One Citizen and One Alien Parent in Wedlock: A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under Section 301(g) INA provided the citizen parent was physically present in the U.S. for the time period required by the law applicable at the time of the child's birth. (For birth on or after November 14, 1986, a period of five years physical presence, two after the age of fourteen is required. For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen are required for physical presence in the U.S. to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.)

 

Again, Ms. Soetoro would have had to be 19 years old to automatically over-rule Mr. Obama Sr's British citizenship transmittal to Obama II. But she was NOT, she was only 18...therefore there was no automatic US CITIZENSHIP transmitted to Obama II.

 

So if Soetoro lied about being born in Hawaii and he wrote the truth in his book DREAMS OF MY FATHERS where he wrote his grandmother was present in KENYA at his birth, please tell me how you think Soetoro is an American Citizen according to Section 1401 and section 301(g) of the INA? 

 

God Save Amerika,

 

Edward C. Noonan

Chairman - Yuba County American Independent Party

National Committee Member: America's Independent Party

Founder - CA Mormon Battalion http://www.4xtreme.org   

Former 2006-2008 State Party Chairman - American Independent Party

Former 2006 Candidate/Governor - State of California

Former 2002 Candidate/Secretary of State - State of California

 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 2:41 PM
Subject: RE: Soetoro is not an American Citizen!
 

Wouldn't the fact that his mother was a US citizen make him one automatically as well?   Now, if he renounced his citizenship that is one thing, but the fact that his mother is a US Citizen has generally been understood that makes the child a citizen as well.

John McCain whom, in addition to Obama, I did not vote for was not born in the US, but is considered a natural born citizen because his parents were citizens.

Just something I wanted clarification on.


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