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The Proposition 8 Ruling - What it means...


Edward C. Noonan
 
Dear Yuba County American Independent Party members:
 
Attn: Capitol Resourse Institute
660 J Street - Suite 250
Sacramento, CA 95814
 
Dear Karen England:
 
I wanted to drop you this note to commend you and let you know I am please with the efforts that you and your group (and groups like yours) are doing to keep marriage safe. Although I do not believe it is necessarily FAMILY VALUES that we are trying to protect, I do avidly believe it is CHRISTIAN VALUES that are being viciously attacked.
 
But regardless, we are fortunate to have you help lead this fight against those who wish to change the Judeo/Christian concept of marriage into unions of all sorts of perverse evils (same sex-unions).
 
I have a couple of comments on your last email alert. It concerns the interpretation of the California Supreme Court regarding our new Constitutional amendment. The amendment reads:

 

 

CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION - ARTICLE 1  DECLARATION OF RIGHTS

 

 SEC. 7.5.  Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California.

 

 

My first comment pertains to your quote about the courts ruling concerning the "retroactivity provision:"
 
"The court ruled that Proposition 8 did not contain a "retroactivity provision" and therefore any marriages performed before it took effect were valid. The ruling held that voters did not intend to invalidate existing same-sex marriages, and neither Proposition 8's language nor any voter guide information would lead voters to believe that existing same-sex marriages would be invalidated should Proposition 8 pass. This is an attempt by the court to find a legal loophole in order to placate those they wronged last year by impatiently and imprudently declaring same-sex marriage legal before voters had their say on Proposition 8."
This is absurd that the Justices could possibly use such trickery in saying the California Constitution is NOT the law of the land. The new amendment now trumps all California Codes, Regulations and judicial decrees. This new amendment strips away any concepts of marriages, unions or whatever that have been done in the past as well as what will be done in the future. Those 18,000 marriages are now 18,000 divorces! PERIOD! These idiot judges cannot possibly say (with a straight face) (or with a straight lifestyle) that the constitution now allows NO same-sex marriages EXCEPT for the past 18,000 previous perverts who married each other. If someone got a new-age-gay-marriage then it is KAPOOT! OVER! Gone! The morons in the California Supreme Court need to be challenged!
 
The minute the new amendment was added to our constitution...THE DIVORCE DECREE WAS MADE! NO SAME-SEX MARRIAGES ARE ALLOWED -- ZERO, NADA, NONE!
 
I would urge you to cease saying there is any crediblity in the words of these rogue judges and stand strong against these depraved rulings! These judges are attempting to MAKE NEW LAW and this cannot stand!
 
We need to form a Citizen's Grand Jury like we have been doing with Soetoro (aka Obama, aka illegal alien-in-chief) and his eligibility issue. Soetoro has failed to comply with the U.S. Constitution (and he refused to prove his citizenship and that he is an American), and indict these corrupt justices. The California Supreme Court has failed to read the new words of the CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION and they are in violation of it. This must stop! I am calling for 25 Californians to join with me to indict these judges for their rogue legislating from the bench.
 
Now my second point. You quoted in your email:
 
"The day after the ruling was handed down, two lawyers announced they had filed a federal challenge to Proposition 8. Former Solicitor General (under President George W. Bush) Ted Olson and David Boies, who were opponents in the historic Bush v. Gore case of 2000, jointly filed the lawsuit. The suit alleges Proposition 8 violates the United States Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment guarantees of equal protection and due process."
 
Has any lawyer or judge in any of the pro-gay/lesbian litigation ever read the 14th Amendment? The words are as follows:
 

 

14th Amendment:

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

 

 

Could someone please tell me how the 14th Amendment applies to the modern day gay/lesbian issues? IT DOES NOT! There is no such protection for gays and lesbians to CHANGE THE LAW. And this is what they have been systematically doing. Our laws have stood for nearly two centuries against same sex-marriage. Now the gays and lesbians do not want EQUAL PROTECTION OF THE LAWS but to change the laws to favor their lifestyle.
 
Starting in 1841 my Mormon forefathers were persecuted for having religious beliefs favoring plural marriage (Mormon men had more than one wife.)  (NOTE: We believed it was a commandment from God.) The internet LEGAL DICTIONARY describes the CURRENT CRIME of plural marriage:

The Crime

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Polygamy

The law in every state prohibits a man or a woman from being married to more than one living person at a time. The crime of having more than one current spouse is called either bigamy (having two spouses) is a subset of the crime of polygamy (having more than one spouse), and the law makes no practical distinction between the two. Even in states that separately criminalize both polygamy and bigamy, either crime is committed when a married person first enters into an unlawful marriage with a second person. However, additional marriages beyond the second would support prosecution for additional criminal counts and possibly a longer sentence.

Most states base their polygamy laws on the Model Penal Code section 230.1, which provides that a person is guilty of the third-degree felony of polygamy if he or she marries or cohabits with more than one spouse at a time in purported exercise of the right of plural marriage. The crime is punishable either by a fine, imprisonment, or both, according to the law of the individual state and the circumstances of the offense. The crime of polygamy is deemed to continue until all Cohabitation with and claim of marriage to more than one spouse terminate. Polygamy laws do not apply to Aliens who are temporarily visiting the United States, provided that polygamy is lawful in their country of origin.

The existence of a valid marriage entered into by the defendant prior to the second valid marriage is an essential element of the offense in every jurisdiction. No particular type of ceremony is required for the first or subsequent marriage before someone can be prosecuted for polygamy. Even persons who satisfy the requirement for a Common-Law Marriage can be prosecuted for entering a subsequent marriage that itself is either another common-law marriage or a traditional marriage.

Cohabitation is not typically a requisite element of the offense. Merely entering into a second marriage with knowledge that one is currently married to another living person will support an indictment for polygamy. An indictment for polygamy will not be found unlawful even if the defendant offers proof that his or her first marriage was a voidable marriage, or one that is valid until annulled. If neither party to a Voidable marriage successfully voids the marriage by obtaining an Annulment, then the remarriage of either constitutes polygamy.

Ordinarily the state in which the polygamous marriage occurred has jurisdiction over prosecution of the crime. Some statutes, however, provide that the accused may be convicted in the state where the polygamous cohabitation takes place, even though the marriage occurred elsewhere. For example, California law provides that "when the second marriage took place out of this state, proof of that fact, accompanied with proof of cohabitation thereafter in this state, is sufficient to sustain the charge." Cal. Pen. Code § 281.

How can the justices possibly conclude that gays and lesbians can escape societies laws regarding traditional marriage whereas Mormons were to be jailed, fined persecuted for having more than one spouse? It is my opinion that either gays and lesbians suffer the same penalties that Mormons have had to live under, else the Supreme Courts (and American society in general) have wronged  the LDS people (Mormons) in the past  and they owe restitution to all Mormons (LDS) everywhere.
 
And too, at least the Mormons had plural marriage for religious reasons. And the 1st Amendment clearly states, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;"  Whereas the Mormons heretofore complained that the Supreme Court rulings were violating the Constitution on this front, the gays and lesbians can ask for no such religious protection.
 
At anyrate, I commend you for your service in the defense of marriage (2009). I maintain that if the Mormons are slapped down for past plural marriages, the same slapping down should apply to gays and lesbians. If we LDS must live under a one-man, one-woman rule... so should they! That is EQUAL PROTECTION (i.e. Prosecution) OF THE LAW!
 
(NOTE: Mormons (LDS) have not practiced plural marriage since 1891.)
 
God Save Amerika,

Edward C. Noonan
Chairman - Yuba County American Independent Party
National Committee Member:
America's Independent Party
Founder - CA Mormon Battalion http://www.4xtreme.org                                              
Former 2006-2008 State Party Chairman - American Independent Party
Former 2006 Candidate/Governor - State of California
Former 2002 Candidate/Secretary of State - State of California

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 10:30 AM
Subject: The Proposition 8 Ruling: What It Means

CRI
The Proposition 8 Ruling:  
 What It Means
What did the court decide?
The court ruled against opponents of Proposition 8 and upheld traditional marriage. The key issue before the court was whether Proposition 8 was an amendment or a revision to the state constitution.
 
A revision is a fundamental alteration of California's governmental structure. A revision requires a 2/3 approval by the legislature before heading to voters. The court agreed with Proposition 8 supporters that the ballot measure was a valid amendment, not a revision. The simple 14-word insertion of the traditional decision of marriage does not fundamentally change the structure of government.
 
This ruling was a victory for the democratic process and the people's ability to change our governing documents. While Proposition 8 was upheld, it was also subverted by the ruling. In recognizing the 18,000 same-sex unions performed last year, the court undercut the constitution, which clearly states that only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California. 
  
What about the same-sex marriages performed last summer?
Last May the California Supreme Court overturned Proposition 22, declaring it unconstitutional. Since Proposition 22 was not placed in the constitution, but simply in state law, the court contended that it violated the state's ultimate law, the constitution. Six months later, voters approved Proposition 8, which placed the true definition of marriage in the state constitution, thus superseding the court's ruling. In that six month window, an estimated 18,000 same-sex unions were performed in the state.
 
The court placed itself in the untenable position of upholding the people's ability to defend traditional marriage and extending marriage rights to same-sex couples. In the end, the court reluctantly agreed Proposition 8 was a valid constitutional amendment, but it held to its social engineering by validating the marriages performed last summer.
 
The court ruled that Proposition 8 did not contain a "retroactivity provision" and therefore any marriages performed before it took effect were valid. The ruling held that voters did not intend to invalidate existing same-sex marriages, and neither Proposition 8's language nor any voter guide information would lead voters to believe that existing same-sex marriages would be invalidated should Proposition 8 pass. This is an attempt by the court to find a legal loophole in order to placate those they wronged last year by impatiently and imprudently declaring same-sex marriage legal before voters had their say on Proposition 8.
 
Will same-sex marriages outside of California be recognized?
In the last footnote of the majority opinion, the court indicates it is open to hearing a case on whether same-sex marriages performed outside the state during the six-month window last summer may also be recognized in California. It is doubtful that such marriages would be recognized, especially not until such a legal challenge is brought forward. However, the court does seem to invite such a challenge, and based on their illogical justification for recognizing the 18,000 existing same-sex unions, justices seem amenable to the idea of recognizing out-of-state unions.
 
Does this mean the fight over marriage is over?
Not at all. Even before the ruling was handed by the court, homosexual activists were organizing and planning their next steps. Already, there is a movement to place a repeal of Proposition 8 on the ballot in 2010. Rallies, protests and demonstrations are scheduled all across the state as opponents of Proposition 8 express their anger.
The day after the ruling was handed down, two lawyers announced they had filed a federal challenge to Proposition 8. Former Solicitor General (under President George W. Bush) Ted Olson and David Boies, who were opponents in the historic Bush v. Gore case of 2000, jointly filed the lawsuit. The suit alleges Proposition 8 violates the United States Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment guarantees of equal protection and due process. On behalf of an Alameda lesbian couple and Los Angeles gay couple, the suit requests an immediate injunction to stop the enforcement of Proposition 8. 
  
There does seem to be some division amongst homosexual groups, as several have denounced the lawsuit, preferring instead to try the issue at the ballot box again. Homosexual advocacy organization Equality California is already laying the groundwork for a statewide ballot initiative to make same-sex marriage legal. If it qualifies, such a measure could appear on the 2010 or 2012 ballot.
 
CRI's Response to the Prop 8 Ruling on News 10
 
We must remain vigilant because the battle for marriage has just begun.

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