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The FED (Federal Reserve System) started as a scam!


Edward C. Noonan
 
Dear Yuba County American Independent Party members:
 
Dear Unalienable,
 
You asked in your previous post, "Having changed the FED rules 200 times since its inception one needs to ask WHY are the rules the way that they are now constructed ?  In my view if we know why the FED was provided FULL immunity to Congress to conduct their operations ...then why are we again questioning the FED's structure?  I want to know WHY the existing FED rules were created before changing ANYTHING dealing with the FED's operations.

Also, one would have to believe that 535 members of Congress, judges at state and federal levels, along with AGs both federal and state, etc  are all involved in the grand FED conspiracy.

The FED issue boils down to one END argument and question; "ARE THERE ANY MORAL, ETHICAL, HONEST, GOD FEARING, people existing in America?  If not then return the land back to the Indians. 

MY REPLY:
 
FIAT MONEY = REDISTRIBUTION OF DEBT = SOCIALISM.
 
Since the FED fiat money is printed out of thin air, and has nothing backing it up, it is merely a way for the CENTRAL BANK (THE FED) TO CONFISCATE WEALTH.
 
The FED began as a scam, has always been a scam, and always will be a scam. I have included below, how the scam first started. The original scam was conspired into being by the courts, congress and especially the president. And I agree with you...it still is a scam of conspiracy of the President, Congress, Courts and the States as well. Read my last post at http://www.4xtreme.org/9trillionmissing.htm or more at http://www.4xtreme.org/
 
Edward C. Noonan
Chairman - Yuba County American Independent Party
National Committee Member: America's Independent Party
Founder -
CA Mormon Battalion
Former 2006-2008 State Party Chairman - American Independent Party
Former 2006 Candidate/Governor - State of California
Former 2002 Candidate/Secretary of State - State of California
 
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Read here how the scam was started!
 
Secrets of the Federal Reserve
The history, organization and controlling interests behind the Federal Reserve
-- by Eustace Mullins, 1983 source: Whale.to (http://www.whale.to/b/mullins_h.html)

Modern History Project, Chapter 3 (http://www.modernhistoryproject.org/mhp/ArticleDisplay.php?Article=SecretsCh03)
Passage of the Federal Reserve Act (1913)

The Glass Bill (the House version of the final Federal Reserve Act) had passed the House on September 18, 1913 by 287 to 85. On December 19, 1913, the Senate passed their version by a vote of 54-34. More than forty important differences in the House and Senate versions remained to be settled, and the opponents of the bill in both houses of Congress were led to believe that many weeks would yet elapse before the Conference bill would be ready for consideration.

The Congressmen prepared to leave Washington for the annual Christmas recess, assured that the Conference bill would not be brought up until the following year. Now the money creators prepared and executed the most brilliant stroke of their plan. In a single day, they ironed out all forty of the disputed passages in the bill and quickly brought it to a vote. On Monday, December 22, 1913, the bill was passed by the House 282-60 and the Senate 43-23.

On December 21, 1913, the New York Times commented editorially on the act, "New York will be on a firmer basis of financial growth, and we shall soon see her the money centre of the world."

The New York Times reported on the front page, Monday, December 22, 1913 in headlines:
MONEY BILL MAY BE LAW TODAY--CONFEREES HAD ADJUSTED NEARLY ALL DIFFERENCES AT 1:30 THIS MORNING--NO DEPOSIT GUARANTEES--SENATE YIELDS ON THIS POINT BUT PUTS THROUGH MANY OTHER CHANGES.

"With almost unprecedented speed, the conference to adjust the House and Senate differences on the Currency Bill practically completed its labours early this morning. On Saturday the Conferees did little more than dispose of the preliminaries, leaving forty essential differences to be thrashed out Sunday. . . . No other legislation of importance will be taken up in either House of Congress this week. Members of both houses are already preparing to leave Washington."

"Unprecedented speed", says the New York Times. One sees the fine hand of Warburg in this final strategy. Some of the bill's most vocal critics had already left Washington. It was a long-standing political courtesy that important legislation would not be acted upon during the week before Christmas, but this tradition was rudely shattered in order to perpetrate the Federal Reserve Act on the American people.

The Times buried a brief quote from Congressman Lindbergh that "the bill would establish the most gigantic trust on earth," and quoted Representative Guernsey of Maine, a Republican on the House Banking and Currency Committee, that "This is an inflation bill, the only question being the extent of the inflation."

Congressman Lindbergh said on that historic day, to the House:

"This Act establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President signs this bill, the invisible government by the Monetary Power will be legalized. The people may not know it immediately, but the day of reckoning is only a few years removed. The trusts will soon realize that they have gone too far even for their own good. The people must make a declaration of independence to relieve themselves from the Monetary Power. This they will be able to do by taking control of Congress. Wall Streeters could not cheat us if you Senators and Representatives did not make a humbug of Congress. . . . If we had a people's Congress, there would be stability.

The greatest crime of Congress is its currency system. The worst legislative crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking bill. The caucus and the party bosses have again operated and prevented the people from getting the benefit of their own government."

The December 23, 1913 New York Times editorially commented, in contrast to Congressman Lindbergh's criticism of the bill, "The Banking and Currency Bill became better and sounder every time it was sent from one end of the Capitol to the other. Congress worked under public supervision in making the bill."

By "public supervision", the Times apparently meant Paul Warburg, who for several days had maintained a small office in the Capitol building, where he directed the successful pre-Christmas campaign to pass the bill, and where Senators and Congressmen came hourly at his bidding to carry out his strategy.

The "unprecedented speed" with which the Federal Reserve Act had been passed by Congress during what became known as "the Christmas massacre" had one unforeseen aspect. Woodrow Wilson was taken unaware, as he, like many others, had been assured the bill would not come up for a vote until after Christmas. Now he refused to sign it, because he objected to the provisions for the selection of Class B. Directors.

William L. White relates in his biography of Bernard Baruch that Baruch, a principal contributor to Wilson's campaign fund, was stunned when he was informed that Wilson refused to sign the bill. He hurried to the White House and assured Wilson that this was a minor matter, which could be fixed up later through "administrative processes". The important thing was to get the Federal Reserve Act signed into law at once. With this reassurance, Wilson signed the Federal Reserve Act on December 23, 1913. History proved that on that day, the Constitution ceased to be the governing covenant of the American people, and our liberties were handed over to a small group of international bankers.

The December 24, 1913 New York Times carried a front page headline "WILSON SIGNS THE CURRENCY BILL!" Below it, also in capital letters, were two further headlines, "PROSPERITY TO BE FREE" and "WILL HELP EVERY CLASS". Who could object to any law which provided benefits to everyone? The Times described the festive atmosphere while Wilson's family and government officials watched him sign the bill. "The Christmas spirit pervaded the gathering," exulted the Times.
 
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 10:15 AM
Subject: Judge Carter and Dr.Orly's Hearing -- Fed Comment

A friend just sent this to me. The friend received this info from the Minutemen in Sand Diego...I guess.  Fed info below.


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News should be out soon, as soon as the hearing ends.

Jeff Schwilk, Founder
http://www.sandiegominutemen.com/
www.YouTube.com/SanDiegoMinutemen
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Here's the story on the FED.
From the beginning of bank arguments in the US one needs to know that the current arguments put forth by Ron Paul were all debated over the years since the FED was first established. 

The FED issues debate are responsible for bringing about, at least 200 changes in how the FEDERAL RESERVE  operates as shown at this link.
One needs to know that the GOLD and SILVER producers and sales personnel have a HUGE stake in what's used to back America's currency... and in fact one needs to realize that the ability to create money in a money system allows for economic expansion, for without PRUDENT expansion of the money supply then NATIONAL GROWTH is restricted.  Again, FED or Congress money supply management is FULLY DEPENDENT on the honesty and integrity of citizens who manage either of the enterprises. 
Having changed the FED rules 200 times since its inception one needs to ask WHY are the rules the way that they are now constructed ?  In my view if we know why the FED was provided FULL immunity to Congress to conduct their operations ...then why are we again questioning the FED's structure?  I want to know WHY the existing FED rules were created before changing ANYTHING dealing with the FED's operations.

Also, one would have to believe that 535 members of Congress, judges at state and federal levels, along with AGs both federal and state, etc  are all involved in the grand FED conspiracy.
The FED issue boils down to one END argument and question; "ARE THERE ANY MORAL, ETHICAL, HONEST, GOD FEARING, people existing in America?  If not then return the land back to the Indians. 
I have no doubts that Ron PAUL is just re-inventing the wheel... but his query may be the on more than the previous 200 Fed rule changes making Ron Pauls changes the  201st time that the FED rules are changed.
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The Fed Fighter: DealBook’s Ron Paul Interview

October 2, 2009, 1:35 pm
Ron Paul
Fed

The fallout from the credit crisis has put the financial system of the United States under a microscope. Banker pay, lending practices and regulatory oversight are now topics of mainstream interest for the first time since the Great Depression.

As Congress debates whether or not to give more power to the Federal Reserve to watch over the financial system, Ron Paul, the Republican congressman from Texas, is arguing, as he has for years, for the government to go in the opposite direction and actually cut the Fed’s powers.

In an interview with DealBook on Thursday, Mr. Paul discussed his new book, “End the Fed,” as well as his views on Wall Street.

The outspoken lawmaker contends that the government is essentially controlled by the Fed and in collusion with Wall Street, and has created an unsustainable economic system through the excess printing of money. He predicts that the system will eventually break down and the dollar will collapse, creating economic chaos.

Here are edited and condensed excerpts from DealBook’s talk with Mr. Paul.

Q.

What would Wall Street look like without the Fed? Do you believe that Wall Street banks — which you’ve described as a “secretive cartel of powerful money managers” — would be able to manipulate interest rates if the Fed didn’t exist?

A.

No, the interest rate would be set by savers. Capital would come from savings, which is what happens in a free market. So if there were a lot of savings then interest rates would go down. This would give information to the marketplace, which is the most important thing that has to be corrected without a central bank: sending the right information out to borrowers, investors and savers.

Right now we don’t have a free market in interest rates, so it is basically price controls.

Q.

In your book, you argue that ending the Fed would put the American banking system on solid financial footing. With the banks still far from clearing their toxic assets, how is that possible?

A.

Well, to get rid of the toxic assets, the Fed said we need to step in because the assets were illiquid. Illiquid means that they are worthless, and if they are worthless, we should take care of that problem like we did in 1921 and eliminate them and get it over with and get back to work again.

But to take these illiquid, worthless assets and dump them on the American taxpayers and not really get rid of them just prolongs the agony.

Q.

It’s widely believed that the Fed is independent, made up mostly of academics, not politicians or business leaders. What specific powers do you believe the Wall Street banks have over the Fed that would allow them to influence it?

A.

Well, we don’t have a full answer on that, but that’s obviously the reason the Fed doesn’t want a full audit. What we do know is that they do have influence over the Fed; I mean Wall Street was bailed out, and it wasn’t the first time.

We know that Lehman Brothers was allowed to go bankrupt, but Goldman Sachs came out very well outside of this mess. We want to know why this happened, what they did, who got these loans and why. Someone has always been in our Treasury or our Federal Reserve who is closely connected to Wall Street — Goldman Sachs more than anybody else.

Q.

So do you think Goldman Sachs has the most influence at the Fed?

A.

I think they have been in the news the most, but we might find out a lot of new things once we audit the Fed. We might find out that there are some international banks with influence.

The one thing the Fed is really fighting is to keep us from auditing any of the international agreements they have with other central banks and the international financial institutions — who knows who’s involved. The key issue is transparency, and I don’t think you will know the full extent until we have a true audit.

Q.

Which brings us to your bill to audit the Federal Reserve. What would an audit show, and why do you think that information is important?

A.

It is going to show what kind of promises the Fed made, what kind of loans they made, which companies benefited, which companies did not. We want to know about these international arrangements. You know if they can enter into arrangements with other countries and other central banks and issue new money and credit — they are literally a government unto itself.

The Fed is making appropriations that are off the books and didn’t go through Congress. That should be unconstitutional. They are making agreements with other governments. That’s treaty-making and we don’t even know about it. They always say it is to maintain an orderly financial system, but there is nothing orderly about it. They created problems, and it is something we deserve to know about.

Q.

Congress is considering various ways to increase regulatory oversight of Wall Street. Do you believe that could help alleviate the severity of the financial boom and bust cycles?

A.

No, it wouldn’t do a thing because it is a distraction. The real problem is the inflationary monetary policy of the Fed — you have to deal with the problem in order to correct it. I mean Congress is talking about more and more regulations, but that just won’t work.

In a market economy with a gold standard you do have market regulations. Bad businesses and bad banks – they go out of business. They would never be all at one time. F.D.I.C. kind of insurance would be private, banks would be rated by a private company and when they made bad loans, it would be known.

The better they ran their affairs, the lower their insurance rates would be and people would know every single day how a bank is doing, rather than allowing every bank to hide behind government guarantees.

Q.

You mention in the book that your ultimate goal is to “repel legal tender laws and letting everyone get into the business of the production of money.” Can you explain what you mean by that? It sounds kind of chaotic.

A.

This is kind of a theoretical argument, because I follow what [Austrian economist Friedrich] Hayek said in that you should have competing currencies in one economy. The market would decide if you use gold or silver or some other things – anything to restrain the printing press.

If we follow the Constitution, only gold and silver could be legal tender, but today that is not allowed and the only thing you can use is Federal Reserve notes (dollars). That means you get locked into the system.

Q.

Some argue that your view on returning the United States to the gold standard is simplistic and not applicable to today’s sophisticated and interconnected financial system. How do you respond to that?

A.

I think the system we have is not a very good system and it is in the process of causing us a lot of trouble. We had the biggest financial bubble in the world just burst and the dollar reserve standard has literally come to an end, so I would say everything we’ve had, especially since 1971, has been very, very impractical and has not worked anyway.

Q.

So how close are you in convincing members of Congress to “end the Fed”?

A.

They are not ready. They are only going to study it when they see the collapse of the dollar. Although the dollar is collapsing, it’s not happening fast enough for them to think about currency reform. They are talking about financial system reform with all these regulations that will make it worse, but they aren’t anywhere close to dealing with the currency issue. If they think they can double the money supply in a year, they aren’t close to talking about sound money.

That being said, I am excited that now at least people are beginning to take a look at the Federal Reserve. I am very positive about how the college kids have taken to reading Austrian economics. To me it is remarkable that 75 percent of the country said that we should limit the Fed, when a couple years ago they didn’t even think about it.

We now have every Republican on the audit bill and 119 Democrats, so it is very positive that attention is directed toward the Fed.



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